Unsurprisingly, the success, Read More BMW N54 vs. N55 vs. B58 vs. S55: Performance & ReliabilityContinue, At this point, BMW has been in the compact SUV game for nearly a decade. This means each cylinder uses 2 exhaust and 2 intake valves for a total of 24 valves. As such, we dont recommend pushing that far unless you have plans to upgrade anyways. The B58 uses a single twin-scroll turbo. N43/N53. Its tough to say. Are there any ways to see the health status of the NOx system?, B58. N43/N53 operation modes. There are tons of "scoring threads" on this forum, mentioned on tuned and stock engines. This time - regarding data, available in the ISTA/Expert mode. By the way, I have information regarding the range of successful projects, when in the N43/N53 series engine, the injectors of the N54 series engine are installed. Thats beside the fact most B58 powered BMWs are mid-range cars relative to their line-up. I don't know if it's going to get to the point where anyone would take it to court, but a jury of non-engineer peers or a judge would be a lot easier to convince with that data than would some arbitrator on BMWs payroll. Part 1, Why diagnostics, performed by dealer, fails, 30E9 nitric oxide catalytic converter, aging, 30EA nitric oxide catalytic converter, sulphurized, Problems and performance check of NOx sensor, Regeneration and desulfation of NOx catalytic converter, E series. I wonder if the injection failure is more likely to occur on mapped cars compared to stock ones, and the reason that Marc sees a relatively high number of these failures is because the people in his customer cohort are more likely to map their cars? Mechanical Maintenance - Break-in, Oil, Fluids, Servicing, Etc. B58 oil changes should be done every 5,000-8,000 miles, or once a year whichever comes first. N43/N53 E and F series. The N54 takes the cake in regards to horsepower capabilities, but it had many engine problems as a result. I recently purchased a used M5 f10 2013 41k miles no warranty . BMWs B58 engine is a 3.0L inline-6 turbocharged, direct injection gasoline engine produced from 2016-present. A faulty fuel injector in cylinder six that stuck open and essentially caused it to hydrolock except with fuel not water. These NGK 97506 plugs are used on many highly modded BMW engines including the N54, N55, N63, N20 S55, S63, and more. N63. T#: 2691305 | Part#: B2358417. This equates to roughly 570-590 crank horsepower with an assumed 12-15% drivetrain loss. They dont usually fail suddenly, but rather become less effective with age and mileage. Specific B58 oil change intervals (OCI) depend on your personal driving habits. I will start the review with the first menu: analysis of Rough run data. Look for things like cooling system problems and gasket oil leaks. Use your own judgement, but we always use 5,000 to 6,000 mile OCIs. Coolant also helps prevent corrosion. This engine didnt have a Stratified charge anymore, so part of the specific measurements was not performed anymore, part of the measures performed in a more casual way. BMW's B58 engine is a 3.0L inline-6 turbocharged, direct injection gasoline engine produced from 2016-present. Required fields are marked *. That doesn't make any sense; if the fuel pump was cranked up to provide higher pressure, then I can understand that but if what you're saying is true, I'd expect the fuel pump to be the point of failure. However, its going to take a lot of road to reach those speeds. Add to cart. After 5 mins parked engine off it went away . Emissions Problems Captain . The B58 has 24 valves. Appreciate 0 Quote 09-14-2018, 03:52 PM #8: e85m4. 1) B58 Engine Problems - B58 Coolant Loss. 4. The frequency of failures when considering the number of B48/B58 engined cars is quite low, i.e., the issue is an 'if', not a 'when'. Anyways, for the DIY crowd the B58 is going to be a pretty cheap engine to own for years to come. JavaScript is disabled. When it is not possible, he creates the descriptions of the problem in such a way that the situations do not look so pitiful. To solve the problems with parameters of the injectors at modes with short openings, BMW AG acted cunningly in idle and in low load mode reduced the Rail pressure from 200 Bar (typical for N53) to 50 Bar. Also, these engines didnt have a Stratified charge. Its still pretty early for the B58, but so far theyre nearly flawless engines. To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. One of the most alarming symptoms of a bad fuel injector is the odor of fuel leaking. Refurbished. Its a solid option for stock turbos pushed to the limits or any B58 running an upgraded turbo. Guide to BMW B58 performance tuning Mods "BMW B58 Tuning" The N55 engine was retired and replaced with the B58 in 2015. New. Yes! Look no further. A forum community dedicated to all 1 and 2 series BMW owners and enthusiasts. Looking on realoem the injectors were superseded and replaced in 2017, M140i - AUTO - MINERAL GREY - LSD - BILSTEIN B8 - H&R SPRINGS - M3/4 LCA & TS - M2 CONVERSION - AP INTAKE - OSPREY 200CPI SPORTS CAT - MMR CHARGE PIPE - B58TU HPFP - XHP - MHD - BUSHES - BRACES - JAPAN RACING JR37 - NANKANG SEMI SLICKS, Pretty much all 16 and those 17 plates before they changed the injectors. Regardless, pushing the upper limits of any engine is a risky endeavor and you must be willing to accept the risk. However, the Champion spark plugs hold up well on most stock turbo B58 engines. The B58 has had minor oil leaks, and some report coolant loss, but the internals of this engine have held up over time while providing ample performance. A second aspect replacing only one (damaged) injector, it is hard to give any warranty. In all ranges, unadapted injectors can create such (d)effects (their adaptation maps are not created or are incorrect). Can anyone here help ? What sort of personal outcomes are you looking for? Now, there is good news. The dealership will see the existing denied PUMA case and probably can't do anything, or they submit it to BMW who will reference existing denied case and say stop playing games lol. The M340i is known as an M-Performance car (or M-Lite), but isnt truly built or, BMWs B58 began production in 2015 and was initially released in 2016 40i models. The pistons are cast, but remain strong. Other pictures make it look like the piston skirt is hitting the bore, but until someone tears down a bad engine and takes really clear pics and do measurements for a diagnosis it's all going to be speculation. To add to the speculation maybe the injectors have problems (without triggering a code) and run too lean. N55. Dont overlook this basic maintenance item on the B58. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. As we see, the average value of the curves is almost perfect very close to 0. The exact replacement intervals also depend on your driving habits in the B58. I will start the review with the first menu: analysis of Rough run data.Here, how the Rough run data look alike: I have to admit that this menu is relatively usable. E series. We recommend a 50/50 mix of water and coolant for the B58. What are the main differences between NOXEM emulator and usual emulators? Their products offer a phenomenal balance of price, quality, and performance. You can say we are somewhat N54 fanatics. Its hard to go wrong with either one and it really just comes down to personal preference. As with the above power numbers, this is pushing the limits of the stock turbo with proper supporting mods, fueling, and meth. Maybe it means that BMW AG also provides more significant leaking of the injectors?c) the generation of the DME software increased from MEVD 17.2.4 to 17.2.9. After replacement, I would NOT upgrade DME to 17.2.9. Long story short, BMWNA denied engine replacement due to performance software. Injectors from a dealer. No scoring problems on my tracked car. Point is, standard maintenance isnt cheap. But the most interesting will only come!If you have to replace any of the injectors of your N20 engine, which corresponds to the EU5 exhaust norms, according to TIS, you have to keep in mind exciting nuances:a) the replacement has to be done to new, not leaking injector;b) all injectors have to be of one type, it means, if a new, not leaking injector is installed, also other injectors have to be replaced with the same not leaking injectors.BMW proudly calls it EU5 to EU6 conversion procedure. 71. Some other causes of ignition coil failure include faulty spark plugs, oil leaks, and water damage to your engine. Yes. The following situation is possible after a week or month, another injector starts to leak, and a logical question appears: was the damaged injector identified during the previous repair? 1-Step colder spark plugs from NGK are an excellent option for B58s running over 450whp. Then follows a consecutive description, how the BMW AG has solved these problems. The labor work costs 50$ to 150$, depending on the workshop. That is far from the truth. Whats the difference, Dealer. Since the BMW B58 uses an intercooler the temperature of the air entering the intake does not matter much. Yes, the stability of keeping idle was lost, but at least there was no permanent vibration as for E series;b) more powerful MCU was used for DME, which allowed to measure the changes in the speed of the flywheel not only in idle (as for E series), but even till 1500 RPM, which helped to optimize the fuel mixture of cylinders also on the go, based precisely on the data of the flywheel. However, there are many other excellent brands of engine oil for the B58. Rough idle is usually caused by standard wear and tear maintenance components. Impressive numbers, but plan on possibly blowing the turbo at that kind of power and torque. Part 2, Importance of the service procedures. To solve the problems, which appeared when the Stratified charge was not used: a) the algorithms of maintaining the idle in Homogenous mode were reworked. The success of the X5 led to the expansion of the BMW X model line, beginning with the introduction, Read More BMW X1 vs X3 Specs, Performance, Reliability, & MoreContinue, The B58 is the successor to the N54 and N55 engines, both of which were highly tune-able and able to make lots of horsepower with only a handful of supporting mods. You can absolutely save money by doing it yourself. I'm living proof with 4 scored up walls with 4 failed injectors. Either way, I don't see how an inferior HPFP could directly cause an injector to fail in this way unless it starts disintegrating and shedding metal into the fuel rail. Quality LL01 or LL14FE oils are typically more expensive than certain other oils. F series. Or if using something thicker than 0w20 has something to do with it?? Part 2, Persistent vibration in Homogeneous mode. All direct injected engines will likely need this at some point. All in all, its not too bad. Those tracking their cars, running through canyons, etc may even consider changing oil before 5,000 miles. N20/N26. Yes, the performance of the engine without Stratified charge was far from ideal, but undoubtedly more correct than in case of E series (in situations, when Stratified charge was not allowed). Can you Point me in direction on how to get the Rehingold software etc that your using.. thanks! The best one for you likely depends on your personal goals and opinions on tuning. I love the car aside from this issue its the perfect daily in my opinion . Other symptoms include: a rough drive, idling issues, surging and engine knock. But there was a major update done in 2018 and then another for 2020. Problems of air-tightness, Idle. 2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum. Simple Yet Solid. Appreciate 0 Quote 02-03-2020, 05:58 PM #36: JD11937. Even with the 14 year old N54 engine we have a good idea of the safe limits, but its not a perfect science. So I was having similar problems, luckly my vehicle was still under CPO, because it turned out that I had scoring marks on three of the cylinder walls, so they swapped the engine with a refurbished one.. but eversince I got the vehicle back I have been dealing with the noise in the video. have you guys experienced this ? Check Price. B58. Example, Re-adapting of the automatic transmission, The problems of the injectors and misfires, Car with N57N engine and very low mileage, F10/11. We are hoping to soon add an F80 M3 and F82 M4 GTS. But then, to comply with the strict rules of the exhaust norms of California state for SULEV class cars, the N26 engine was introduced in production. That won't work. DO NOT TRY TO JUST REBOOT, THIS IS NOT A WINDOWS COMPUTER! If its not the coil pack and spark plugs what could it be? What sort of engine air filter? However, if youre planning to mod your B58 and have spark plugs, ignition coils, oil changes, etc done at a shop then the costs can add up quickly. However, time will tell just how bad the valves look around the 100,000+ mile mark. The first one noted occurred in 2016 and it was not flashed.. JB4 only + meth and luckily the dealer covered it. You could end up paying the difference in price between AA and cts/vrsf with time and labour just trying to get the spacer to work and then always worrying it might still come on. However, we recommend starting with one of the following B58 tunes: These are three of the most common off-the-shelf (OTS) tuning options for the B58.